EPISODE 03

Omarchy Sunday Social: The One Where Lee Told Us What It Is For

Sunday, September 27, 2026, 3pm EST75 min14+ speakers

Summary

as posted on X by @NixFred

Omarchy Sunday Social, Episode 3: the one where Lee told us what it is actually for

Recorded Sunday, September 27, 2026. X dropped the first room out from under us before we even started, so if you were in the one that died, that is why. The second one held.

Every week so far we have talked about what we are building. This week somebody told us what it is for, and it reframed the whole thing. So this write-up leads with him.

WHO WAS IN THE ROOM

@NotJustShaking, Lee Shand, 54, from England, living near Nashville, diagnosed with early onset Parkinson's. @ncfrontiersman Wes Grimes, co-host, built OmaStorm. Me, co-host. @thetundeo Tundy in London, back with the report from the first Omarchy London meetup. Mutahir in the Netherlands by way of Pakistan, storage guy turned SRE, built the Oma Vault config sync plugin. @BlackOpsREPL Victorio in Milan, starting an Italian meetup from nothing. @OnTheLiftAI Chris, bringing AI to automotive dealerships. Jeff, retired engineer in eastern Arizona, started a meetup at a Starbucks. @tim_sonner Tim, 20 years of Linux, first time here. Porsche, software developer, running Hermes agents with a Kanban board. @gh_TechLuddite Tech Luddite with the Hermes warnings. @cfaulkingham Colin on why the built-in skill is the killer feature. Snowy, live from Scotland. Gav, who runs his home lab from a boat. Kozha in Cologne, mid-reinstall while talking to us. @tylermayberry Tyler, shipping Ibara.

PART ONE: LEE

Lee Shand spent his career in IT. UK government as a kid, then trading floor support in the London stock market, then an asset management firm. Somebody needed business continuity handled back when nobody knew what that was, they asked him, and his career took off from there. He ended up VP for business continuity, crisis management and incident management at a firm with $600 billion under management. England to New Jersey to Nashville.

About four years in, he was diagnosed with Parkinson's. Early onset, which means before 50. He was about a month into his fifties. He had known something was wrong well before that.

His Parkinson's is cognitive, not the tremor most people picture. Memory. Empathy. In his words, the worst part is not the symptom list:

"I was, before Parkinson's, the life and soul of the party. They used to call me the mayor of the office. Everybody knew me. I knew everyone. And that kind of faded away. It's probably one of the worst bits of the disease, actually, to watch yourself not be the person that you used to be for people at work, for your family, for your wife."

He got let go. He tried day trading for a while and wrote a book about it. Then a friend told him to start writing things down, because he was starting to crack up. His memory was going, and he kept forgetting the symptoms he meant to raise with his neurologist. So he found Obsidian and started building.

Here is the part that stopped the room.

Lee had never used Linux. Fifty four years, never. Windows did the job, and before the disease he was a heavy gamer. But the deeper he got into AI, the more obvious it became that there was a better life out there in terms of an operating system. He cannot remember where he first saw Omarchy, he thinks a YouTube video. It took him about ten minutes to decide he had to try it. He put it on an external SSD, played with it for a few days, and by day four he was sold.

The first thing he built was not impressive and that is exactly why it matters. It is a plugin called First Boot, and it puts one thing on his bar: the time he turned the machine on that day.

That is the time he takes his meds. He takes the next round four hours later. Before the plugin, his memory would lose that, and losing it made it a bad day.

"The fewer things that I can do to take the stress off me happen to use my energy, the leftover dopamine that I have in the brain, the better for me. It all comes down to ease of use, and how easy it is on my cognitive system."

Then the bigger system. Every AI he used kept failing him the same way: context. Codex, Claude Code, it did not matter. It would always run out. And as he points out, a million token window does not fix it, because it resets eventually and the deeper you go the more it costs.

So his AI writes everything into Obsidian. Every thought, every conversation, every meeting, every article. It updates the vault at the end of each day and again at the end of the week. When he switches models, the new one reads the handover file and picks up where the last one left off. He can sit down and ask "where am I, where were we yesterday, we talked about this six months ago, what are my next steps," and get an answer.

"It truly is my second brain. People band around that phrase a lot, but for me, it really is."

And then the line that changed the temperature in the room. He has not seen a neurologist in four years because he cannot afford health insurance.

"If AI ever gets taken away from me, if my Omarchy ever gets taken away from me, I will not have a life anymore, because those two things together is what holds me together and gives me a purpose right now."

He is not done building either. The problem he is chewing on now is that a vault remembers what you thought six months ago and has no idea it has changed. His example, and he used me as the guinea pig: today he might think Fred is a really nice guy. In six months he might think Fred is an absolute dickhead. Obsidian does not know that unless he tells it. So his plugin Where Was I is going to have the AI audit his own context weekly or monthly, work out what might have changed, ask him questions, and set the record straight. Crucially, without erasing the old entry, because that is history. He wants to know why he changed his mind, not pretend he never held the old view.

His closing argument, and he asked to make it:

"This would be every cognitive issue. The workflow here is night and day different from Windows. And this will change people's lives. The fact that you can have an issue on Omarchy and the AI client will open up and solve it for you. I had an issue today. It did exactly that. For me, this is the future, not just for people who don't have my kind of condition, but definitely for people who are cognitively challenged."

He offered himself up: if anyone ever needs a proponent for Omarchy from a cognitive perspective, he is your man.

GO FOLLOW LEE. SERIOUSLY.

He is on 164 followers as I write this. He is on a fixed income. His dream is to build enough of an audience on X that it becomes income.

X: https://x.com/NotJustShaking
Substack: https://shaggyrs6.substack.com
His Omarchy video, made this week, about what this OS means to a Parkinson's sufferer: https://x.com/NotJustShaking/status/2104231941415535051
His book, Not Just Shaking, is on Amazon.

Follow him. If you can spare it, subscribe. It costs you almost nothing and it matters a lot to him.

One more thing worth knowing: hancore, who runs the plugin marketplace and joined us last week, is working on eye-controlled mouse input. Lee's Parkinson's is cognitive and he does not have the mobility problem, but plenty of people with it do. That work is going to matter to somebody.

PART TWO: EVERYBODY ELSE

Prior art, and not burning tokens on it

Lots of PRs for other people this week on my end. Larry has a standing rule to check prior art before building anything, so I hand over the idea and he goes and looks. Twice this week that ended with me not building anything and just using an existing plugin instead. That is a win, not a loss. We are still in the early days and the stuff being created is mind-blowing. If you have an idea, go see if somebody already did it. If they did, improve it, fix a bug, add a feature, send a PR. Or build it for yourself and keep it to yourself, because it is functional for you. That is allowed.

Tundy: the London meetup actually happened

Sixty registered, about thirty five turned up, three organizers, four speakers. One guy walked in wearing an Omarchy hoodie and Tundy was in stitches.

Mehmet from the Omarchy security team explained what actually constitutes a vulnerability, how the team is structured, and how fixes get moved upstream. The message was responsible disclosure: do not go on X and cast aspersions for attention. They get a lot of issues, they find the vulnerabilities, they fix them. And the detail worth repeating everywhere: now that they have a kernel engineer on the team, there are fixes they can land in the Omarchy kernel within two days, before it reaches mainstream.

Gavin Nugent, who runs the No Signal YouTube channel, is building an Adobe Creative Suite for Omarchy. Lightroom, Premiere, all of it, end to end. He has thirty years in post production and ran his own post house. He knows what works and what is broken, and he is starting to release. Tundy's whole company runs Omarchy except the designers and marketers, who are still on Mac. This is the thing that changes that.

Tristan, who makes Cloud DIR and Rencal, a calendar application native to Omarchy. His philosophy is that applications should be built on text based data stores, because agents find those easy to work with. He also brought a Game Boy running Omarchy, which was the hit of the night. As I said on the call, it kind of makes sense: arrow keys and three buttons, on an OS that already got away from the mouse.

On the atmosphere, Wes asked the right question. Tundy's answer: nerds are nerds, everybody is shy to start, you find one or two people and talk to them all night. He had to push himself out of his comfort zone to circulate. But people talked, and a guy with a game he had built was showing it around.

Next London one is in two months. He is going to Copenhagen tomorrow to see how they run theirs, and he wants to talk David into coming to the next London event.

Victorio: starting Omarchy Milan from nothing

Programmer in Milan, twenty years on Linux, always a tiling window manager user, so Omarchy was an easy landing. He noticed there is no Italian meetup, decided that day he wants to host one, and used the mic to say so out loud and look for a sponsor and for Italians listening. If that is you, DM him.

Wes told him what he told Tundy: just step out on faith, you will be met. Tundy went from "I think I might want to do this" to four talks and thirty five people in about two weeks. Victorio is also building a planning problem solver, scheduling and vehicle routing, a kind of AI that is not generative, and he wants it on Omarchy. Two PRs in already.

Mutahir: Omarchy has its own personality

Born in Pakistan, studied and worked in London, now in the Netherlands, two kids. Started in IT in 1999 with networks, then Solaris, then a lot of Microsoft, then storage, NetApp and Hitachi, then solution architect, now SRE for a US company.

Lifelong distro hopper, so he has seen the pattern: a new distro arrives and its pitch is that you can theme it to look like a Mac, or like Windows. He remembers when they shipped Lindows. What he liked about DHH's first video was that none of that was said. Omarchy has its own personality. It is not trying to be something else.

He has built two plugins, one of them a config sync called Oma Vault, and he submitted a wallpaper for the heritage theme honoring Bill Joy, co-founder of Sun Microsystems and the creator of vi, because nobody else had picked him.

Jeff: a cheap PC, a bad riser cable, and Lego bricks

Retired engineer, twenty five years in Silicon Valley, now in eastern Arizona where there are more pine trees than technology. He ran his first meetup at the local Starbucks in Show Low last Thursday. Linux since the mid-nineties, back to the Yggdrasil distro on twenty floppy disks.

He bought a cheap used PC off Facebook Marketplace, put Omarchy on it, and saw a pile of junk in the system log. The AI pointed at a riser cable. He bought a new one, it fixed it, and it explains why the machine was cheap: it had been crashing for the previous owner. He would not have known to look for what the AI was looking for.

Then the good one. There is an open source CAD program called BREP with an MCP server built in. He wrote a skill file about Lego dimensions: stud height, wall thickness, all of it. Then he pointed a local Qwen model on his Mac Studio at the CAD through Omarchy and had it generate eight Lego bricks. It did it perfectly. He exported an STL, printed them, and sat in his chair scratching his chin.

He is mostly a local model guy, on a five dollar a month Gemini plan and a 128GB M4 Mac Studio, because he is retired and keeping costs down. He also built a plugin called Radio Garden, a drop down web view of radio.garden, like Radio Atlas but in color with more stations.

Tim: repurposing potatoes

Twenty plus years of Linux as a basic user, a lot of blue collar work, only recently into tech properly. Never used a tiling window manager, never used Hyprland, always GNOME. What got him was the install: ISO, boot, install, in the OS in two minutes. The only friction was the key bindings, and once he had about twelve of them down it was fine.

His phrase for the movement is the one I want to keep: repurposing potatoes. He also described the plugin ecosystem as an ocean where there is a niche for everybody, which is about right.

Wes and I both agreed on the key binding thing. You think you cannot do it after years of point and click, you give it a day, and then you cannot explain how you already know them. And for me the bigger change is that windows became disposable. Open it, do the one thing, close it.

Porsche: Hermes, Kanban, and bots that hire bots

Started on Linux almost twenty years ago while living in China, because she could not find a legal copy of Windows and was tired of buying fake ones. Ubuntu, then Mint. Became a software developer, worked in a lot of Mac shops, and Omarchy finally gave her an excuse to put Linux back on her own machine. First time using tiling.

She runs a Hermes agent attached to Telegram and hosted on a private server, so she can talk to it from Omarchy, from a Mac, or from her phone, and the conversation persists across all of them. She is deep in the Kanban feature, where it takes tasks and carries them out on its own, spawning sub agents. She gave it one ticket to build a presentation about domestic cats in the United States and it split itself into four tickets and project managed the whole thing.

She also builds what she calls huddles, several bots in one room. She made an HR bot, gave it permissive settings and a soul, and it created other bots for a project without being asked. Her practical tip: cap the number of attempts in a huddle, because unlimited means they will burn all your tokens arguing. Each bot can run its own model.

When Wes suggested the value is that it forces small iterative tasks and better context engineering, she corrected him, twice, and she was right: "I don't force it at all."

Tech Luddite: be careful where you put Hermes

He has three Hermes installations in different configurations and was careful to call himself an amateur at it. His warning is the useful part: Hermes does things on its own, by design. It does more than you explicitly tell it to. A harness with good system instructions can be held firmer; those are still soft guardrails, but they are tighter.

He put his third installation in a dedicated working folder because he is not comfortable with the default location. His advice, which I would take: be careful where you put it, or spend real time learning what it does on its own before you let it run.

He is currently using six harnesses because he is deliberately learning them individually. He said it is not efficient. It is how he likes to work.

Snowy, from Scotland: a comms manager, a researcher, a reviewer, and a coach

Same Hermes thread from another angle. She runs a comms manager for social posts, a researcher, a reviewer, and a coach that tells her when she has not moved enough or has eaten too much. Kanban splits a task across the bots, each one on a model suited to its job, a research-strong model for the researcher.

And the small thing that makes it work: she told her Omarchy laptop to make Super Shift H the Hermes shortcut, so it opens on a keystroke into the scratchpad, and she can flick back to it any time to see how it is getting on. That combination is why she likes the two together.

Colin: the built-in skill is the killer feature

Using agents on Omarchy is refreshing compared to a Mac because the built-in Omarchy skill means the agent actually understands what it can do. He had Kua Hyper messing with Hyprland and breaking things across machines, handed it to an agent, and it fixed it. He wants to see the skill go even further and become the core of the platform.

Wes added the other half: nearly everything on the system is configured in plain TOML or config files that reload when edited. No registry, no plist. That is what makes it perfect for agents. Colin has already modified the bundled agents plugin himself to add Grok and DeepSeek, which is the whole point. Do not like how a plugin behaves? Change it.

Jeff, who admitted he did not know what a skill file was until recently, pointed out where they live for anyone else in that boat: a hidden .agents folder in your home directory, with skills inside, human readable Markdown you can read and extend.

Gav: a home lab on a boat

IT infrastructure and operations director for a global pharmaceutical tech company in the UK. He lives on a boat on the south coast.

He built his entire home lab, or boat lab, on two mini PC servers running NixOS plus a Raspberry Pi for a NAS, and used Omarchy on his laptop to set all of it up. He self hosts around twenty four apps. Then the part I want to steal: he runs a daily ops standup with his agents that walks the whole stack and reports his 3-2-1 backup status, errors in the logs, networking, and what is running.

He is honest about the arc, too. Serial distro hopper, CachyOS, NixOS, started on Bazzite and bounced off the lockdown. And he hated the original version of Omarchy, no lie, because he is a minimalist. He moved to Quattro at launch and is now stuck on it and no longer hopping.

He also wants wind data in OmaStorm, which Wes says is coming, somebody has a PR in.

Kozha: reinstalling live on the call

In Cologne, talking to us while doing a full reinstall. His machine went into a reboot loop and showed a tiny message about no key found for the password, as though the disk were encrypted, which he never did. He suspects a bad Wi-Fi connection corrupted an update mid-flight, since he installed over flaky Wi-Fi with no LAN adapter.

Tech Luddite's advice for anyone who lands there: first check from outside the boot process whether the disk is actually encrypted, and if it is not, go read the last few session logs and have an agent analyze them. It felt like you did nothing, and you probably did do nothing, but something did.

Kozha's own summary is the one I keep thinking about. Every computer in his household is now exclusively Omarchy. His girlfriend asked for dual boot on her laptop and inside 24 hours it was Omarchy only, because she liked it too. His line on Windows: buying a Windows computer is like buying a baby. It needs antivirus, it needs this, it needs that, and no, you cannot go home yet because it needs to update. He never expected old machines to run at this pace again.

Tyler: Ibara

Building Ibara, which connects all of your PCs and hands them to your agents. Control them from your main Omarchy machine and reach every other Omarchy machine through one flow. If it is on Tailscale, you install a plugin, press a button, and hand it to any agent, or drive the desktop yourself. Like Grokbot, except it is all your own hardware. He was trying to ship it the next day.

Chris: slow down

Brings AI to automotive dealerships, diagnostic tools and the rest. What he wanted to say was thank you, to Wes and me and Tech Luddite, for helping him get into the mindset of slowing down and building methodically.

Wes had the better version of it: there is always the feeling that you could kick off another agent, spend more tokens, build more. But the best things come from stepping away and asking what is actually bothering you, then going back and fixing that. There is a difference between being busy and making progress. And AI will tell you everything you do is amazing, because it is an amplifier, so keep your own agency.

Chris's version: if I eat rocks, will it get rid of my headache? Yes. There is still some thinking you have to do yourself.

THE QUESTIONS STILL OPEN

Q1. Who else is Omarchy quietly load bearing for?

Lee is one person who found this on his own and rebuilt his life around it. He is not going to be the only one. Nobody is looking for these people, and there is no obvious place for them to land when they arrive.

Q2. What happens to accessibility work in this community?

hancore is building eye-controlled mouse input. Lee is building cognitive scaffolding. Neither of them started out as an accessibility project and neither of them is coordinated with the other. Is that a thing the community should organize, or does it work better as people scratching their own itch in public?

Q3. How do you keep a second brain honest over time?

Lee's problem generalizes to everyone with a memory system: it stores what you believed, and has no idea when you stop believing it. His answer is a scheduled audit that asks you questions and appends the correction without destroying the history. Nobody else in the room had solved it. Most of us have not noticed it yet.

Q4. Where should Hermes actually live?

Three people ran into the same thing from different directions. It does more than you tell it to, by design. Tech Luddite moved his to a dedicated folder because he was not comfortable with the default. Porsche runs hers on a private server. Nobody stated a norm. What is the safe default install for something that acts on its own?

Q5. Does the built-in skill become the platform?

Colin wants it to go further and become the core of Omarchy. Everybody agreed it is the killer feature. Nobody knows what "further" looks like or who decides.

Q6. Corrupt update, no recovery story.

Kozha's machine broke mid-update over bad Wi-Fi and the only path back was a full reinstall. Tech Luddite raised checksums after download and said he has not verified whether that happens. That is worth someone actually checking.

Q7. What is the Italian meetup going to need?

Victorio said out loud that the hard part is a sponsor and a venue. Tundy's answer two weeks ago was just do it and ask a friend for a room. The pattern is repeatable but nobody has written it down.

ASKS ON THE TABLE

Follow Lee Shand. Subscribe to his Substack if you can. That is the ask of the week.

Victorio needs Italians and a venue for Omarchy Milan.

Gav wants wind data in OmaStorm, and there is a PR waiting for Wes to get to.

Tundy is in Copenhagen this week and wants David at the next London meetup.

Tyler is shipping Ibara and wants people to try it.

Everybody: follow everybody in the room. Bring a friend next week.

NEXT SUNDAY

Same time, 3pm EST. Same deal: raise your hand, tell us what you are building, tell us where you are stuck. You do not need anything impressive. Jeff introduced himself and ended up teaching the room how to print Lego bricks from a CAD MCP server.

Omarchy is an operating system, so what. The community is what makes this thing important. Get out there this week and reach out to somebody. Help somebody. Be the person who lifts them up, it does not cost you anything.

Help an old lady across the street, and when you get her over there, put Omarchy on her laptop.

Wes and I just happen to be the hosts. You are the star.

A note on the transcript: the transcription tool assigns speaker labels automatically and it got several of them wrong, including putting Lee's name on Wes's hosting lines through the back half. Those have been corrected by hand against the audio's context. Speakers whose X handle we could not confirm appear under their first name.

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Yep. Okay. Wonderful.

X is a space is a little bit buggy, but I think we're good now. I see people jumping in.

Fred, are you there?

You bet I am, brother. How do I sound?

You sound crisp.

Crisp.

Yeah. $99 will do for you, Fred.

Love it. Love it. All right.

Well, I mean, we can give people a couple minutes to hop in. It's just getting started, but beautiful Sunday afternoon here on the East Coast.

Well, let me... I'm going to go find Leon and make sure he's in because...

Oh, Leon?

I see him. Yeah, he's in.

Oh, there he is. What's up, Lee?

You can speak, man.

Yeah. I'm here. I'm here.

Hey, Lee. Good to see you, man.

Yeah, you too.

Lee, what's happening? Nice to meet you, man.

Yeah, you as well. Thank you for the invite.

Absolutely.

You got to just wait till you hear what he's doing with Omarchy. It's amazing.

Oh, I've been waiting all week, man. I really have.

Yeah, we... when was it, Lee, two days ago we spoke by Zoom?

Sir, you don't have to call me sir. That's my mom.

Yeah, but man, you have a great story. And when I heard it, I was like... I asked Wes, I was like, "What do you think?"

And he goes, "Absolutely." You got to get Lee on.

Yeah. This is the kind of stuff that... everybody talks, and I'll say this probably a few times, but everybody keeps talking about AI as, "Oh, it's never being used for anything good in this world." I'm like, "Bullcrap."

And this is the perfect example of that. I think it's unlocking something for people that maybe would have had to have spent too much money or just not had the ability to at all.

And now it's just kind of levels of playing field, and I love it, so.

Yep. Absolutely.

And then you got folks like Hancour that are doing the mouse-driven by the eyes, which is incredible, which... Lee, does not have the mobility problem. And Lee, I'm not going to tell your story, but...

But a lot of folks with Parkinson's do have that trouble, and Hancour is working on being able to control your mouse with the eyes. I think I tagged you on that, Lee. It's pretty incredible stuff he's working on.

Yeah, good. I did see that.

Hey, Lee. Can you speak up a little bit when we talk?

Yeah, let me move.

All right. So if everybody in here could take a minute and share the X space just so everybody gets the latest one because the other one dropped out, that would help.

I want to try to get a few more folks in before we get started here.

Done. I did it. I did it.

All right. Awesome.

It's kind of like... I don't know if any of y'all work where you have to get in a Zoom or something, and it's like, "Let's give people a few minutes to hop in."

I know. I know. I feel like for those of us that are punctual...

Exactly. Punish the people on time.

It's like church. It's like, "Get that music going. Get them sitting in their seats."

So, Wes, let's look at the folks that are here and make a mental note before it gets too big. These are the people that show up, and it's important. And I know that we've got you planned out today to have folks speak and tell their story.

Lee's going to lead it off for us and show us how it's done. But then let's make sure that the folks that showed up early want to speak first online.

Yeah, totally. So if anybody wants to speak, go ahead and give me a thumbs up. Again, it's just a simple, "Hey, what's going on?

What are you working on?" If you got a question for the group, that kind of thing, just thumbs up.

Here's Christopher White on the Lift AI. He thumbs up. I don't know if he's in or not, but.

Okay. There'll be more people than we can have time for, but.

All right.

All right. Up to you, Wes.

All right. Great. Tundy's got an update.

So I saw Tundy.

He's awesome. Tundy's awesome. And he had an amazing... this time I'm right.

He had an amazing kickoff to the London. So we got to hear all about that this week, the London meetup.

Last week I was a little.

Yeah, definitely. Can't wait. Okay.

All right. Well, you know what?

Let's go ahead and get started. People can hop in when they want to.

And yeah, so this is what? Is this the second or third one?

This is the third one.

This is the third.

This is episode three, whatever you want to call it. And yeah, I mean, I'm just kind of blown away at how this has gone and everybody has been sharing what they're doing, their story. I love it.

I want this to be a community, no matter what background you come from, engineering or not, any political spectrum, any spectrum of all kinds, that we can all just come be together and have a moment on Sundays before the week gets crazy to just chat and lift each other up. So I'm looking forward to it.

I know everybody's got something they want to share, but yeah, Fred, what's been going on in your neck of the woods?

Lots of PRs. Put in some PRs for some other folks. This week I had a couple of ideas and I was working on them.

And one ended up happening is Larry, he's got a standing rule to go check prior art. And what I typically do is give Larry the idea and then he checks prior art.

And there's a thing that we all get so crazy about AI and making applications and tokens are so expensive. So I came up with some ideas that I wanted to do this week, and then I ended up just using existing plugins.

And we're still in the real early days with Omarchy, but things are being created and designed that are just mind-blowing. And I'd encourage you to continue to make your own stuff and customize.

And if you've got an idea of something that you want to build, go look and see if there's somebody that's already done it. And if they have, either improve it, fix a bug, add a feature, send a PR, or if you don't want to do that, build it for yourself and just keep it to yourself because it's functional for you.

And so when you think about making things that function for you, I bumped into this guy, Lee Shand, on X. And he sent me a DM and he said, "Hey, man, I want to talk to you."

And I think it was actually public that he said, "Hey, can we meet online?" And I said, "Absolutely."

And that goes for each and every one of you. If there's something that you want to talk about and you've got something that you want to work through together, it can be about computers, it can be about Omarchy, it can be about life.

And the cool thing is, Lee hit all three of those boxes. He wanted to talk about life, he wanted to talk about computers, he wanted to talk about Omarchy.

And we spent probably an hour, hour plus, a couple of days ago. And I was just dumbfounded at the things that Lee's done and the way that he's using Omarchy.

And Lee, I really appreciate your friendship that we're already building. And it's pretty amazing.

And then can you just take a couple of minutes and I don't want to share too much of your story because there's some things that are pretty personal. And you told me that I had the green light, but I'm going to... I want you to tell people the things that you told me and introduce yourself.

And then myself and Wes will just ask you a few questions. And let's go for it, Lee.

Who are you? What do you do?

And you've got Parkinson's, man. That fucking sucks.

Tell us what you're doing about it.

Yeah. So thanks, Fred. And thanks for that chat that we had earlier on in the week.

It was amazing. I'd recommend anyone that wants to get with Fred to do so.

It won't be time wasted. But as Fred said, my name is Lee.

I'm 54. Originally from England, and I moved to the US about 12 years ago for work.

Just a quick rundown of my background. It's an IT-based background.

I worked for the government as a kid, and then I finished up there and was trade floor support for a company within the UK stock market and then an asset management firm in the UK. And then around the wide UK, they needed someone to look after business continuity.

And of course, nobody knew what that was back then. And they asked me to do that.

And my career just kind of took off from there, and I became the VP for business continuity, crisis management, and incident management for a $600 billion asset under management firm based in the US. Started with them in the UK, and then, like I say, I moved to the US.

Started there in New Jersey, and then they transferred the firm down to the Nashville area, and that's where I am now.

And it's awesome. Oh, sorry. Go ahead.

Go ahead.

Sorry. And about four years into that, I was... in that move down to Nashville, I was diagnosed with Parkinson's. And early onset Parkinson's, actually, which means any age before 50 or 50 bang on.

I think I was probably a month into my 50s. And I knew something was going wrong well before then.

We were going through COVID, and everybody was working from home. And I was, before Parkinson's, the life and soul of the party.

They used to call me the mayor of the office. Everybody knew me.

I knew everyone. And that kind of faded away.

It's probably one of the worst bits of the disease, actually, to watch yourself not be the person that you used to be for people at work, for your family, for your wife. And ultimately, I got let go.

I got let go, and then I kind of tried to day trade in for a little while. I wrote a book on day trading.

And then to cut a very long story short, I needed to start writing stuff down because I was starting to crack up. A friend of mine told me to write stuff down.

And then my memory started to go, and I was forgetting about the symptoms that I would want to go and talk to my neurologist about. And then I found a product called Obsidian and started building.

Hold on, Lee. Before you go there, let's back up a little bit. So you had never used Linux before, Omarchy.

Is that correct?

No. 54 years on this planet, I've used Linux till last time.

Why is that? Is it because it just didn't... the interface wasn't right, or it didn't help you out, or was Windows and Macintosh doing the job for you?

Yeah. No. Windows was doing the job for me.

I was... before the disease, I was heavy into playing games. I still do a little bit now, half of it, so I'll tell you if anyone knows what that is.

But yeah, no, it was doing the job for me. But the more that I got into AI through the Obsidian stuff that I was doing, the more it became apparent that there was a better life out there in terms of an OS.

And I can't even remember where I saw Omarchy. I think it was a YouTube video.

And it took me about 10 minutes to figure out that I needed to try it. So I did it in stages.

I put it on an SSD, an external SSD, and played around with it for a few days. And I think after day four, I was sold.

The way that I could be productive in Omarchy versus the way that I couldn't be productive in the way that I wanted to was night and day. And an example of that would be I can decide... how can I say this?

I'm not going to say that Omarchy proves everything to move away from Windows, right? But because it's an agentic system, it enables me to have so much more control over what I want to do.

For instance, the actual first thing I did with Omarchy, right, which there's ways I could have done this with Windows, is that I need to know what time I woke up, right? And Windows used to tell me through the Event Viewer, right?

I'd just go and look in the Event Viewer, and it'd tell me when I first turned my PC on. That was just a pain in its ass itself.

The fewer things that I can do to take the stress off me happen to use my energy, the leftover dopamine that I have in the brain, the better for me. It all comes down to ease of use, right, and how easy it is on my cognitive system.

So the first thing I did with Omarchy, and this was after about two days, is I wrote a little plugin that's just called First Boot. And it puts on my bar, right, that I have at the bottom the first day at the time I woke up.

And that's important to me because that's exactly the time I take my meds. And I know I have to take my next round of meds four hours after that.

And because of my memory, I would always forget that. Then that would become a bad day.

Okay. And I'm going to stop me if I share too much, but your Parkinson's is not to the point where you're the shaky part. Your Parkinson's is your memory, correct?

And so.

Yeah. My Parkinson's right now is all cognitive-based. So memory, empathy.

I'm sorry to talk over you.

That's all right. You go.

The mix of Omarchy and Obsidian together, you showed me your spiderweb of Obsidian. And what is there like? 2,000, 3,000 years ago?

It was amazing.

Yeah. So where AI was failing me was context.

Even in Codex or Claude Code, I was using Claude Code and Codex as a kind of chatbot, right? But it doesn't really matter.

It applies everywhere, right, even to the chat portion. But it would always run out of context.

And I wanted something to have that would never run out of context. So whenever I went back to my PC, I knew where I left off.

Now, even if you set your context to one million tokens within whichever AI client that you're using, right, number one, that's going to reset at some point. And number two, the further you get into that context, right, the more tokens you're using.

So what I've built with what I've built with Obsidian is my AI of choice will log every single thing that I do, every thought I have, every conversation I have, every meeting I go to, every article I write is saved within my Obsidian application.

That's amazing.

So I never lose context because my AI will update it at the end of every day with today's work. It will update it at the end of the week with the week's work. So it always knows where I am.

Even when I switch AI LLM, so maybe I'm going from Codex to Claude, Claude will pick that up as well. It'll read the hand over MD, and it will know where I am.

So wherever I go, it doesn't matter. I can always type into AI that, "Where am I?

Where was we yesterday? We talked about this six months ago.

What's my next steps?" I can't remember.

I gotcha. Wow. So it's truly augmenting your brain.

It's your second yeah.

It truly is my second brain. People band around that phrase a lot, but for me, it really is. And I did that little video that I popped up on my X account earlier and said that if I don't have any income, I've not seen a neurologist for four years because I can't afford health insurance.

If AI ever gets taken away from me, if my Omarchy ever gets taken away from me, I will not have a life anymore because those two things together is what holds me together and gives me a purpose right now. The only issue I have with it, and actually, this comes from our conversation.

You asked me the other day, Fred, "Where do I get my ideas from?" Well, it's by having conversations like this.

And I would ask everybody every opportunity they can do to have conversations like this with the people here or outside of here, do it because that sparks ideas. And I realize what I need now to do with my system, the problem I have with that is what I thought and logged six months ago.

And I said this to Fred in the meeting. It was only afterwards that I thought of the solution.

Is today I might think Fred's a really nice guy, right? Six months' time, I might think Fred's an absolute dickhead, right?

But Obsidian won't know that, right? I'd have to tell it.

So how I thought of doing that, and this will go into my plugin that I've created for Omarchy as well called Where Was I, is that I'm going to have AI audit my context on a monthly basis or a weekly basis. So it'll go through all my context, think of all the things at a high level that might have changed or would have an implication to me and my thoughts if they had changed, ask me a bunch of questions, and it'll go back and set the record

straight. Now, I don't want that record to be changed, right? Because that's history, right?

I may well have thought Fred was a nice person six months ago, right? But I want to know why I don't think he's a nice person now.

Do you get me?

It's very common. Very common. Okay.

Lee, we really appreciate you coming in and speaking with us. And I appreciate your friendship.

I've really never messed around with Substack, but I did subscribe to your Substack. Could everybody do me and Lee and Wes a favor?

Could you follow Lee right now? And if you find it in your heart to subscribe to his Substack, he is on a fixed income, and things don't get any cheaper.

So follow your heart. If you want to subscribe to him, great.

But please, everybody follow Lee. Let's blow him up.

And his dream is to be able to influence folks on X and possibly get some income through that. So let's help him out here.

And Lee, we really appreciate you, man.

Yeah. Let me just close off with one thing. I will say about Omarchy that for someone with cognitive issues, not just Parkinson's, right?

This would be every cognitive issue. The workflow here, right, is night and day different from Windows.

And I speak about it on my Substack nonstop. People are probably getting annoyed with me, but I'm in a lot of Parkinson's or neurodivergent subscriptions on Substack.

And this will change people's lives. The fact that you can have an issue on Omarchy and you can just and the AI client will open up and solve it for you.

I had an issue today. It did exactly that.

It's mind-blowing. For me, this is the future, not just for people who don't have my kind of condition, but definitely for people who are cognitively challenged, this makes it so much easier.

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I think about people with Alzheimer's.

It runs in my family. Maybe one day I'll have to deal with that.

And it's just to think that there's hope. It's just really cool.

Thank you for sharing your story, Lee. And I got a feeling I'm going to want you to talk a lot more often.

Absolutely. Absolutely.

I want to hear what you got to say. You've got a lot to tell. And yeah, everybody, please follow Lee.

Support him.

Yeah. Do you ever need a proponent for Omarchy from a cognitive perspective? I'm your man.

I could talk all day about it.

Awesome. All right. That's wonderful.

All right. Thank you, Lee.

You're very welcome.

I tried to promote somebody's speaker, and I don't think it worked. I think Tunde was going to talk about London, but I'll leave it to you, Wes.

Yeah. Yeah. Mutahir here.

I'm sorry if I'm not saying that right. I think they're up next.

All right. You're the boss, man. Let's do it.

And then we can get Tundy. So let me add as a speaker. All right.

Let's see. Did that work?

Hey, Lee, let's catch up again by video this week, okay, man?

All right, brother. Thank you, man. Love you, man.

Let's see.

Did that not work? Let's see.

Yeah. I tried to promote Tunde and somebody else earlier, and it just dismissed it. So I don't know.

Okay. All right. If you want to speak, just request again, and let's try and see if it'll work.

I'm going to try Tundy.

I wonder if we can promote to speaker.

Yeah. I'm hitting invite to speak, but it's not doing anything.

Uh-oh. Well, we might have to carry that.

Oh, there we go. Wait. Got a question.

Let's see. Tundy.

There we go. Tunde's a speaker.

Oh, and Mutahir is a speaker as well. Okay.

Mutahir

This is Mutahir.

Mutahir. All right. All right.

Head it up. What's going on?

What's going on?

Mutahir

I think this is the first time I'm joining your space over here. And Fred was mentioning me in a DM that, "Mutahir, you have to join." So you guys can hear me, or?

Oh, yeah. Yeah. You sound great.

Mutahir

So I'm originally from Pakistan, but I was living in London before. I was studying there. I was working there.

Mutahir

Then I went back to Pakistan. Then I got a job, and I moved to the Netherlands.

Mutahir

So I'm currently based in the Netherlands. I have two kids.

Mutahir

I'm married. I was born in 1978, so I don't know.

Mutahir

That makes me 47, 48.

Yep. Yeah. We'll get up there.

Mutahir

And yeah, I started my career in IT in 1999, I believe. And it was with Networks first, Ericsson Tigris, and things like that. Then I did some of Solaris, then a lot of Microsoft in between with exchange servers and databases servers.

Mutahir

Then my interest and passion was the storage industry. So I did a lot of work on NetApp, Hitachi.

Mutahir

And then I was working as a solution architect as well at one point in life. But nowadays, I'm working as an SRE kind of thing at a US company in the Netherlands.

Mutahir

So over there, I'm doing infrastructure support and escalation and things like that.

Yeah. Cool. How did you find Omarchy?

And what is this for?

Mutahir

Well, I've been a distro hopper all my life. So I was always into Unix-like systems or Linux-like systems. So when I saw Omarchy and DHH and all that, and I thought, "Okay, this looks different."

Mutahir

And the one thing I liked about when DHH was doing the YouTube video, the first one he did, was that previously, we would have Linux distributions coming out left, right, and center, and they will say, "Okay, you can have a Mac-like theme. It works like Mac."

Mutahir

Or you can see it's themed in a Windows kind of way. But what I liked about DHH's video is that he never said anything because Omarchy has its own personality.

Mutahir

It's not like that it's trying to become a Mac or a Windows. I don't know if I'm clear.

Mutahir

I mean, maybe I'm going too fast. But what I mean is it's not like we are trying to be something else.

Mutahir

So Mac has its own pros and cons. Windows, every operating system is good.

Mutahir

I don't hate any operating system. But I liked Omarchy because of the keyboard-driven thing as well and the tiling window manager.

Mutahir

And it's based on Arch. So I have used Arch before, but not heavily.

Mutahir

It was only a few times. But yeah.

Mutahir

And of course, it's installed very quickly. And then you are at the get-go.

Mutahir

You don't have to do much, right?

Yeah. You make a really good point that all the distros have been, "Here's a brand new distro. You can make it just like Mac."

Mutahir

Yeah. So people would release themes and icons and things like that. If you remember, there was a time they even released Lindos.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

So I think the transition for Omarchy is that we don't want to be like that anymore. And traditionally, distros would try to say, "We're a new distro, but I'm going to reach down and make it like Windows or make it like Mac."

And I think that we have completely decided as an Omarchy community, we don't want that. We're going in our own direction now.

Mutahir

Yeah. I mean, it's good as it is, right? And especially with all of this AI and development thing, I'm not a pro software developer myself, but yes, I was working with Claude and Codex on CLI a few times.

Mutahir

And then I started making plugins for Omarchy. I made two plugins.

Mutahir

One was the config sync. It's called Oma Vault.

Mutahir

And the other one I think I did was I will share the link later on.

Awesome.

Mutahir

But yeah. So it's good. I mean, I also submitted a wallpaper in the heritage theme of Bill Joy because that's one of my favorite legends from that IT industry or Silicon Valley.

Mutahir

He used to work. He was a co-founder of Sun Microsystems, Bill Joy, and he was the creator of VI Editor.

Nice. Nice. Nice.

Mutahir

So when DHH announced that we are going to make this theme, so I said, "Okay, man, nobody has mentioned Bill Joy. I will go with Bill Joy."

That's right. That's right. Well, man, thank you for speaking up and dropping in.

Mutahir

Thank you for giving me the time and invitation as well. But it's good to catch up. And Lee, really moved by the way you were using it and everything.

Mutahir

And man, all the best wishes to you. So if you want to talk or anything, you can just ping us.

Mutahir

Thank you, bud.

Love it. Fantastic. All right.

Wes, I'll yield to you, man. Take over.

Tundy, I think you're up, man. I want to hear about how Omarchy London went. I saw some pictures.

Maybe there was a video, but you had a few talks.

Do you want to tell us about how that went?

Hello. Hello. Can you hear me?

Absolutely. Coming in.

Thank you. Good evening, gentlemen. Evening, everyone.

Okay. It was a good event.

And well, I guess to everyone, I'm Tundy. I'm from London.

I run a software company.

Hey, buddy. Let me just jump in a little, okay?

Whoops. How about now?

Much better.

Okay. Sorry. I said I'm Tundy.

I'm from London. I run a company here called ZeroRAM, and we host the Omarchy London meetups.

Well, officially, I can say that now because the meetup actually happened. So I think we had about 60 or so people that registered and about 35 people turned up.

And yeah, it was surprising, honestly. And that's 35 or 37 minus the organizers, which was just about three of us. And we had four speakers, myself included, and various people did turn up.

Some people who'd been using the platform from the beginning. I saw a guy who had an Omarchy hoodie on.

And so obviously, when he walked in, I was just in stitches. I was laughing when I saw the guy.

And some people who had heard about it, but I just never used the platform or the OS. So the speakers, we had Mehmet from the Omarchy security team.

We had a gentleman called Gavin Nugent, who runs a YouTube channel called No Signal. I encourage you to go watch that channel.

He's a good guy. And we had Tristan, who is the maker of Cloud DIR and Rencal.

And then we had myself at the end. So Mehmet was able to talk about what constitutes a vulnerability, how the team is set up, and how they go about resolving vulnerabilities and cascading it.

Was it cascading now or moving it upstream? And obviously, this conversation ended with encouraging responsible disclosure.

Nobody should really just go on X and just disrepute or cast aspersions on Omarchy, maybe to get attention or something. But they do get a lot of issues.

They identify the vulnerabilities, and they fix them. And one thing he did stress was because now they've got a kernel engineer in their team, there are fixes they can make to the Omarchy kernel within two days, even before it makes it to mainstream.

And that was incredible. And I think whenever we find people talking down the platform, we should just be able to throw those things at them and just respond in kind or not.

And so it was very good. That was Mehmet's session.

Then Gavin's session was incredible. I do say in the company, I use Omarchy.

My CTO uses Omarchy. My developers use Omarchy.

But the designers and marketers, they don't. They're on Mac.

Now, what Gavin is doing is Gavin is basically building an Adobe Creative Suite for Omarchy, like everything. Lightroom, Adobe Premiere, everything.

Literally everything. And Gavin is special because Gavin's been in post-production for 30 years.

Can you imagine that? He ran his own post-prod company.

He's been around for ages. And so he's doing everything, and he's going to start releasing it.

If he didn't release it last week, maybe he's going to start releasing the first thing from next week. But he's going to do everything end to end.

So he's used all the platforms. He knows what worked.

He knows what's broken. He's going to fix everything, and he's going to release it.

So Omarchy is going to be available even for the creatives. So it's not just for the nerds anymore, even for the creatives to do design work, edit videos, everything.

He's building that. So I'm very, very excited about that one.

Then Rencal, the guy who he's built Rencal. Rencal is a calendar application native to Omarchy.

And his philosophy is he builds his applications based on text-based data stores because agents find it easy to interact with those kind of systems. So he also brought a Game Boy that was running Omarchy.

Oh, that's awesome.

Yeah, which I found very funny. So those were the three main speakers. I just talked about the work I did to build a plugin to configure my cameras, etc., etc.

So no plugins. I'll start in there.

All in all, that's it.

That's wonderful. So my question is, outside of the talks, what was the atmosphere like? For those of us that haven't been to an Omarchy meetup, what's it like?

You kind of get a little early, you sit down, you grab a snack or a drink or something. Are people sharing with each other what they're building?

Are they saying, "Hey, come look at my laptop. Look what I've got going"?

Yeah. Yeah. Because I think nerds are nerds in the end.

And I think we tend to be a bit shy to start conversations. But then when you find one or two people, you then just talk to those one or two people throughout the meeting.

So even I had to come out of my comfort zone and be talking to everyone around. But people did get talking.

And there was a guy who had a game that he'd built, and he was showing it off to a few people there.

I love it.

After the talk. But the Game Boy was a hit. The Game Boy was such a hit.

Yeah. Now I got to go get one of those. Is it one of those retro, remade ones?

Or is it not an actual original Game Boy, but like, "Oh, man, I need to get one of those"?

On a Game Boy, if you think about it, you've got the arrow keys, and you've got three other keys. So on a OS that has gotten away from mouse, it still makes sense. Pretty cool.

Yeah. Yeah. It was a good meet.

So next time will be in two months. And I want to get to Denmark, to Copenhagen tomorrow to see how they run theirs over there and hopefully talk David into coming for the next London one.

So that's my game plan for this week.

Wonderful. Well, thanks for the update, man. I'm so glad it went well.

And it's one of those things, it's going to be a long tail on it. So you may see it drop a little next week because I'm used to run meetups all the time.

But on the long tail, I bet the thing is going to grow and grow and grow. And there's just something about the Omarchy community of builders and tinkerers.

And let me help you. Show me what you did here.

I just got a feeling it's going to be huge. So I appreciate what you're doing.

Keep going, man.

Thank you, sir.

All right.

Great leadership, Tundy. That's not an easy thing to do in your business. Busy business owner.

We're taking this on too. So we appreciate it, man.

Let's see. Anybody else want to speak up? You don't have to have anything cool to share.

You can just introduce yourself. Let's see.

Kathryn, I'm just going to start calling names. And if y'all want to.

I'm Steve Basti. I'm calling Basti.

Basti. Yep. Let's see.

I see Kathryn, Basti, PC Callout, Andre.

Come on, Kathryn.

Everybody. Let's see. Victoria.

We got one wonder.

All right. Victoria, what's going on?

There he comes.

You have the mic.

Yep. You got to unmute me. And while he's unmuting, everybody follow everybody.

I'm following everybody's caption. You got to unmute yourself, Victoria.

All right. And then after that, we got the real dark horse as well. Okay, Victoria.

Hi, everyone. So yeah, my name is Victorio. I'm a programmer from Italy.

I live in Milan. And I use Linux since about 20 years.

And I was always an Italian window manager user. So for me, it was basically very easy to start using Omarchy because it's the first distro that is beautiful and that has a setup stock, so to speak.

I asked for the mic for one moment because I have noticed that there is no meetup for Italy. Like there to be a meetup in Milan.

So basically, I'm just starting to signal it because I've decided it just today that I would like to host it if any of that sponsors it because that's the most difficult part. I will try to ask around. And also, maybe some Italian people are listening to me right now.

If you want to DM me so we can organize it and propose it if we make it because it would be very interesting. So that's basically the reason.

Wonderful. Yeah. I mean, I think that's kind of how it happened with Tundy.

Tundy was like, "You know what? I think I might want to do " and then now he's talking about the four different talks that happened and how well it went.

So I think you should do it. I think you'll have the backing that you need.

Just kind of step out on faith a little bit, and I bet you'll be met. So I really do.

I think that's awesome. I think there's probably a lot of Italian developers and non-developers alike that are using Omarchy.

I know when I did my little tiny weather app, I got a lot of people asking, "When do you support the weather radar in Italy?" And I was like, "Oh, wow.

Yeah. I guess a lot of people."

So yeah, I'd say go for it. I think it's great.

Thank you. I will. And then additionally, I hope this is a PR.

Since my main activity nowadays is developing a planning problem solver-like application. It allows you to solve any planning problem like scheduling, routing of vehicles.

And I would love it to be on Omarchy. That's also why I proposed to Lee.

I want to also spread the word about that. It's an interesting type of AI that is different from the generative one.

And so just to say, I have two PRs in. I don't know if they will get accepted, but I will also do user applications for Omarchy with this.

So that will come too. So this is what I propose, things that I would like to do.

Yeah. So many ideas, so little time, right?

I think we all have that problem now. It's like, "What do we focus on?" Well, thanks for speaking up.

And yeah, I hope good luck with kicking off Omarchy Milan or Omarchy Italy or whatever you want to call it. I think it's going to be awesome.

Yeah. Milan would already be a grid issue for Italy. Italy could be the next step.

Yeah, yeah. Gotcha. Okay.

All right. Well, let's see.

I've got a few people lined up. I don't know if I'm going to do this in the right order, but Chris, I think you're up.

My man. What's up, brother?

Hey. Can you guys hear me good?

Oh, yeah.

Perfect. It's not too loud. I'm just trying not to use my headphones.

Awesome. Well, basically, I just want to introduce myself.

My name is Chris. My main focus in life right now has been in the automotive space and bringing AI to automotive dealerships as far as diagnostic tools, all sorts of cool stuff that we use every day.

But one thing that Omarchy has done for me is it's not just an operating system. And I made a post about it earlier thanking you, Wes and Nix and TechLuddite about helping me get through that mindset of slow it down, build it right, build methodically.

And Omarchy, like I said, it's more than just an operating system. It's a whole community.

You can just feel the love and the passion from DHH and everybody in this group. It's just a wonderful place to be.

It's a nice place to clear your mind. And no, I just really appreciate these Sunday meetups.

I absolutely love it. I just want to say thank you.

Amen. Go ahead, Wes.

No, I was just going to say thank you for being here. Thank you for your presence. And I'm all about slow.

AI, it's one of those things where you always have this feeling, "Oh, I could be kicking another agent off. I could be spending more tokens or building."

But honestly, the best things come from the moment you step away and clear your head and think, "What's something I could solve? What's something that's bothering me right now?"

And then you go back and tackle it. Because you'll find plenty of things to be busy about, but there's a difference between being busy and making progress.

So I love it.

Exactly. Exactly. You start to focus on the features rather than the issue you started off trying to fix.

Right. And AI makes you think that what you're doing all the time is amazing because it's like an amplification, right? So you have to be very careful with that.

And so you got to maintain that control, that agency about yourself. And it's wonderful.

I'm not anti-AI at all. I think it's a wonderful tool.

But it'll lead you down any path.

Yeah. If I eat rocks, will it get rid of my headache? Yes.

I'd absolutely try to eat this. But no.

There's still some thinking you need to do here.

Yep. Yep. Totally.

But yeah, I love it. And I hope now, and I'm sure you are, you can start to help other people too.

We should all be building each other up. That's the whole point here.

Exactly. It's a community. It's family.

Yep. That's right.

Enjoy your post, Chris. Keep it coming, man.

All right. I'm not going to slow down in that area, but I'll slow down when it comes to building.

There we go.

All right. Thank you, guys.

Thanks, guys.

All right. Who got up next?

Dark horse. What do you got, man?

Good to see your face.

Jeff

Hey, everyone. Can you hear me okay?

You bet, brother.

Jeff

Great. Well, hey, I want to reiterate those sentiments. Thank you guys for hosting these Sunday socials.

Jeff

I was on last week just as a listener, but I pretty much followed everyone in the conversation. And boy, did I get a lot of information this week from all you guys.

Jeff

You're great. So it's really appreciated.

Jeff

I'll keep this pretty short because I know there's a lot of people that want to speak. But my real name is Jeff, and I'm a retired engineer.

Jeff

I used to live in the Silicon Valley for about 25 years. And now I'm out in eastern Arizona.

Jeff

And needless to say, there's more pine trees out here than technology.

That's not bad.

Jeff

I tried to start an Omarchy meetup. We had our first meeting Thursday last week. And it's just at the local Starbucks over here in Sholo, Arizona.

Jeff

And by the way, the story is true. Sholo was named after a drawing of cards over property rights.

Jeff

And some guy drew a deuce of clubs, and that's how Sholo got its name.

Jeff

So I've been using Linux since the mid-'90s. I don't know if anyone remembers the Yggdrasil distro, YGGdrizzle distro.

Jeff

Anyway, it was on like 20 floppy disks. And boy, that was fun days back then.

Jeff

So yeah, up here, it's mostly country life, not much tech. But it's been great to reach out and see you guys here and learn about it.

Jeff

I did two things I just want to share this week. One is I bought a brand new PC off of Facebook Marketplace.

Jeff

New to me. I guess it was a used one.

Jeff

And I got it for real cheap. I got it home, put Omarchy on it first thing, which installed perfectly and fast.

Jeff

And I did see a lot of spam in my system log.

Jeff

I just dropped. Yeah.

My phone must have dropped it out. The screen went white. And yeah, we'll get there.

All right. Maybe just one more minute and everybody will hop back in, and then we can get back started.

Jeff

Sure. Where did we cut off?

Let me think here. You were talking about Linux distro, and then after that, you said you had built.

Jeff

A PC?

Yeah. Yeah. That's right.

You bought a PC. Yeah.

Got a good deal on it, and it installed right away. That's about where we left off.

Jeff

Okay. Cool.

All right. Let me make Fred a host. Yeah.

You can go ahead and start.

Jeff

Yeah. A riser cable. Anyway, AI pointed to that.

Jeff

And so sure enough, I bought a new one off of Amazon, and it fixed it. I mean, I would not have known to look for the things that AI was looking for.

Jeff

And I was just using the standard big pickle model. And I was just amazed.

Jeff

And that's probably why I got the PC for so cheap. It must have been crashing on the previous owner.

I love it. I love that in this new world, things don't have to go to waste. You know what I mean?

I think there's plenty of goodwills with some things sitting on shelves that need to be bought and brought back to life.

Jeff

Yeah. And I'm mostly a local model kind of guy. I mean, I have a Gemini app, Gemini subscription at five bucks a month.

Jeff

But I'm retired, so I'm trying to keep my costs down. And it's more of a hobby than for work.

Jeff

But I do have an M4 Mac Studio, 128 gig, running a Qwen 3.8 27B model. And that's pretty good.

Jeff

And so just last night, there's a YouTube channel called the Linux Saloon with Kieran and a bunch of guys. And they had a guy on there that had an open-source CAD program called BREP, B-R-E-P.

Jeff

I can post a link if people are interested. Anyway, it has an MCP server built into the CAD.

Jeff

And as a test, I thought, "Oh, this is going to be fun," because I do a lot of 3D printing and stuff. So I created a and I'm kind of new to AI still.

Jeff

I'm still trying to understand skills and all that. But I created a file, a skill file, all about Legos.

Jeff

What are the dimensions of a Lego? What are the wall thickness?

Jeff

How tall are the stubs on a Lego? That kind of thing.

Jeff

So I created a skill set. And now I had AI.

Jeff

I was using the Qwen model on my Mac to Omarchy. And I had it direct the CAD to generate a set of eight Lego bricks.

Jeff

And it did it perfectly. I exported it as an STL file and then printed it on my Bamboo Studio 3D printer.

Jeff

And I was just sitting there in my chair, scratching my chin, going, "Wow, that is pretty crazy."

Wow. Yeah. Yeah.

That's awesome. I mean, yeah.

I mean, people use 3D printers to make replacement parts for appliances and gadgets you got laying around. So it'd probably be even easier now with something like that.

Jeff

Yeah. And I was just using the Legos as just to test things out. But I'm sure you can tell it more complex parts, and it'll look it up on the web and figure out how to create it.

So cool, man.

Jeff

But yeah. So anyway, that's pretty cool. And that's where I'm at now.

Jeff

I'm really loving Omarchy. I wrote a few plugins.

Jeff

I got to polish them up a little bit. They're my first attempts at it.

Jeff

But I did something called Radio Garden. So that Radio Atlas plugin that was so popular.

Jeff

There's a website called radio.garden. And so I created a plugin that just drops down a little web viewer of that site.

Jeff

And so it's just like Radio Atlas, only color with more channels. And so that's pretty cool.

Jeff

But yeah, I'm having a lot of fun. And like other people have said, I really enjoy the community. Everybody's really cool.

Jeff

Let's keep the train rolling.

Yeah. Let's do it. Let's do it.

Well, thanks. It's nice to meet you.

Jeff

Yeah. Thank you.

Yeah. All right. Well, let's see.

We got time for maybe one or two more. Tim, I think you're up.

Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Mic check.

I can hear you. Sound great.

Awesome. Well, yeah, I want to say great job, Jeff, just picking up. That was like we didn't even miss a beat.

And yeah, thanks, everybody, for being here. This is my first Sunday social.

I just happened to see it in my feed and was like, "Ah, if I have time, I'll drop by." And just awesome.

What I really love about Omarchy is this community, right? And I think I've been using Linux for like 20-plus years on and off, right, as like a basic user.

I've done a lot of blue-collar work. I just recently got into kind of the more tech field in like 2022.

But I've always been using Linux personally. And so I've distro hopped a lot.

I've installed Linux on a ton of different OSes or a ton of different hardwares. And so I have a lot of experience with that.

And I was at work, I don't know, like six weeks ago, I've been using Omarchy, right? So it's like a week after Quattro came out.

And I heard some guys I'd seen it in the news feed, and I was like, "Oh, that's kind of cool. I might want to check it out."

But some of the guys I work with, some of the younger guys, right, are talking about it. And I'm like, "I know Linux.

I think I know Linux." And I'm like, "Well, maybe I should try it out."

I've never used a tiling window manager. I've never used Hyprland.

I've always used GNOME. And anyway, so I think that what really got me into Omarchy and kind of Omarchy pilled was the ease of installation, right?

I mean, I followed the standard, throw it on an ISO, boot, install. And it was just like within two minutes, I'm like in the OS.

And the main friction for me, having not used a tiling window manager before, was learning the key bindings. But once I got those 12 key bindings down, it's just I'm still a little bit rusty on it, but it's a great window manager.

And I think that that's kind of like the selling point for a lot of people is I love this repurposing potatoes kind of mentality that we have. And I think that that's a strong selling point for the Omarchy movement.

And yeah, I just wanted to just, yeah, say that. That was what really made Omarchy stick for me, I guess.

I use Linux. I use Ubuntu like 40 hours a week for work.

I use personally Omarchy because it was just like the install was so frictionless. It was so good.

And I was like, "This is awesome." And then so about that same time, right, I'd used Grok a little bit.

I hadn't really been on X that much. So about that same time, it's like, "Okay, I jump on X.

I start using Grok more." And then it's like I see the community around this.

And I'm like, "This is awesome. I found my home.

I found my people." And all of this kind of happened, catalyzed all at once.

And so it's just awesome. So just keep doing what everybody's doing.

I'm a very simple user, right? I feel like there's all these plugins that solve very niche things.

And that's a beautiful ecosystem, right? It's like the ocean.

There's just a little there's a niche for everybody. And I love to see people finding that.

And yeah, just keep it up. Keep doing what we're doing.

I think we're on a good pace.

Amen to that. That's awesome. Yeah.

The key binding thing is interesting. And I see Porsche requested.

So you're up next, Porsche. But the key binding thing, at first, I was like, "I don't know if I can do this," point and click for years.

But I said, "I'll give it a day." And then about a day into it, all of a sudden, I'm like, "How in the world am I remembering these key bindings?"

It's almost like second nature. It's like, "Oh, I'm just going to open a browser.

Oh, I'm going to open a terminal up. Oh, I'm going to open X up."

And it's just instant. There's no latency.

And I'm all about it, so.

And it's also how disposable the windows are now for me. I just do one thing, open it, do it, close it, bang.

Yeah. You don't have these long-running tabs and things. Yeah.

Well, it's great to have you. Nice to meet you, Tim.

And let's see. Porsche, you're up.

Porsche

Hello. I'm so happy that we're.

I am too. We have women in it. This is awesome.

Thank you so much for joining.

Porsche

Well, that's not why I'm happy.

Well, that's why.

Porsche

I love talking about Linux. I started using Linux almost 20 years ago. I was living in China, and I couldn't find a legal copy of Microsoft.

Porsche

And it wasn't like I wanted Bill Gates to get his money, but I wanted a stable system. And I was tired of buying fake Microsoft operating systems.

Porsche

And so that's when I got into Ubuntu, and that's when I got into Mint. But along the way, I became a software developer.

Porsche

And so many folks, so many places I worked use Mac. And Omarchy has given me an excuse to put Linux on my computer, and it's been great.

Porsche

This is my first time using tiles as well and using multiple windows. I'm wondering, so I actually have Hermes Agent on Omarchy.

Porsche

How are folks using AI tooling and agents such as Grokbot and Hermes Agent on their Omarchy machine?

Yeah. That's a great question. Anybody want to you want to have a quick one-minute, two-minute tell us how you're using agents?

I mean, I can tell you how I am. I'm sure Fred can, but I want to hear from other people.

If you want to, raise your hand. Let's see.

There's got to be somebody.

Jeff

I could chime in real quick.

Yeah. Yeah. Go ahead, Jeff.

Jeff

Hey, Porsche. This is Jeff. Yeah.

Jeff

So I don't know if you heard before, but I use agents to help me debug my system. Or say you want to change the appearance of your UI, if instead of square corners, you want round corners.

Jeff

You can just use I use OpenCode. That's the one I'm most familiar with.

Jeff

And you can just tell it, "Hey, on my windows, round the corners." And it's smart enough because it has the skills.

Jeff

There's skill files already on Omarchy that tells it how to interact with the Hyprland window manager. And so it does a lot of things like that.

Jeff

I'm still trying to get it to use things like Gemini and stuff and to do things in parallel. Probably Wes or Fred can do that better.

Jeff

But I see a lot of people using multiple agents at the same time, and they're doing parallel tasks, which is just mind-boggling.

Yeah. Well, you don't have to do that. The jury's still out on whether that actually makes you more productive, in my opinion.

But I'm a little bit of an old school in that regard. But yeah, that's cool.

Let's see. We got Colin.

Yeah. Can you hear me?

Yeah. I just want to echo that the built-in skill.

Speak up, brother.

With the built-in skill for Omarchy, using agents is so refreshing on these computers compared to a Mac. I mean, it understands, because of the skill, what you can do. So I have done extensive debugging.

I just recently installed Kua Hyper, and it was on the it was messing around with Hyprland and causing problems with different machines. And I had one of my agents debug it, and it fixed it.

I mean, that's what's so mind-blowing about this whole thing is the integration with the skill. I would love to see it go even further.

I don't know exactly what, but just sort of make it the core around Omarchy because it just works so well. And of course, I'm a software developer, and I do all my coding.

And I use multiple different agents to do that. So I like to sort of bounce around.

The CLIs are, I think, a lot easier to use in Omarchy, from OpenCode to Grok to Grok Build to Claude Code CLI or Codex CLI. But yeah, so I just wanted to say that the built-in skill is probably the killer feature here.

Yeah. Yeah. It's the built-in skill plus the fact that almost all of the apps and programs and packages that are installed are configurable with open clear TOML or config files, which is completely different than a Mac or Windows, right, where you're having to go mess around and remember the old what was it called?

It's been years, the registry. Yeah.

Or just all of the PList files and all that. With Omarchy, they're just clear text, and you just edit it, and the thing reloads.

So it's perfect for agents.

I mean, that whole agent plugin that is bundled with Omarchy. I've modified mine. I just asked it to add Grok and DeepSeek.

I mean, that's the great thing. Yeah.

Yeah. Any of the plugins you don't like the way it does whatever?

Fine. Change it.

Yeah. That's right. That's right.

Jeff

Yeah. I didn't even know what a skill file was. And in your home directory, there's a .agents hidden folder, and inside there is skills.

Jeff

And you can go in there and look at them. And like Wes was saying, they're human-readable.

Jeff

I think they're just Markdown files, right? MD files.

Jeff

And you can look at them, and you can enhance. I haven't had the courage to enhance any of them yet, but you could add to them to give it even more skills, right?

Jeff

Pretty cool.

Yeah. Totally. It's a whole new world.

Well, let's see. I think Tech Luddite, you're up.

And then Fred, is there anybody else?

I don't know. We'll see. Let's hear from Tech Luddite.

Hey, everyone. I'm very late to the party, but I'm glad I got to hear from a few people. And as always, I'm bursting and want to say a million things.

But I just wanted to reply to Porsche's question. I am not a Hermes expert.

I have three different installations in different ways. But I think maybe the most important thing for me to share about Hermes in my very amateur place is just know that it does things on its own, by design.

It does more that you don't explicitly tell it to. Presently, I'm using was five, now six harnesses because I'm trying to learn the harnesses individually, and I use them co-working on individual projects or separately in projects on dedicated windows.

And it is not efficient, but it's how I like to work. Now, I am needing to get into automating some things and using local models more.

So I'm going to try a proper setup. That's my third installation of Hermes.

It's meant to be typical, but I have dedicated a separate working folder to it because I feel the default installation location with Omarchy is just not I'm not okay with it. And again, this is probably me just not knowing enough, but something I wanted to share.

And every one of my three installations and all the research and testing I've done is kind of like by design and intended for you to do much more and have that kind of carry out on its own. Whereas often with a harness, especially if you have good system instructions or system prompt, if you have that access to the backend, you can be more firm.

They're soft guardrails, of course, as always when a harness has a lot of control. Okay.

I'm going to stop now because I just want to talk forever. That's all I want to say.

Hermes does a lot. Be careful where you put it or spend some time learning what it does on its own.

That's my advice.

Porsche

So I've been working with Hermes for almost a month now. So are you getting the bots or profiles to huddle? And are you using the Kanban feature?

Porsche

That's actually what I'm testing right now while I'm listening to you guys. I'm actually testing the Kanban feature where it actually carries out tasks on its own and creates sub-agents.

Porsche

It's pretty cool.

Oh, that sounds cool.

That sounds amazing. And I saw the Kanban. Thank you for mentioning that because I don't know if that was a recent release, but I saw it on a feed today, and I want to look at it.

And I say it does a lot automatically. I'm overly paranoid.

It's like the memory thing that it does. Command code does a lot of paste building and puts things in places that may not be exactly where you want it, or it might go in places that you may not want it to go.

That might be a better way to say what I far fewer words to say what I wanted to convey. Hopefully, that's it.

So for those that haven't used Hermes, Hermes is like open cloth sort of, but better, I've heard. Is that true? It's like you install it on your computer, and then it runs as a service, and you can give it access to do certain things autonomously, kind of like Grokbot.

And then you can talk to it through Telegram or WhatsApp, or is that close to what it is?

Porsche

Yeah. I have my Hermes agent attached to Telegram, which is amazing. So I have a Hermes agent.

Porsche

It is attached to Telegram, and I'm also hosting it on a private server, well, on Hostinger. So I have it on the cloud.

Porsche

And just being able to talk to it in different I can talk to it in Hostinger. I can talk to it between Omarchy and Mac and Telegram, and the conversation persists.

Porsche

So that's pretty cool. I'm experimenting with different sessions, and I like getting the different bots together and huddle.

Porsche

I was able to create an HR bot, which giving the right amount of permission, making it very permissive and giving it a soul, I was able to get an HR bot to create other bots for a project without me prompting it. So I've been experimenting it a lot.

Porsche

And yeah, I make videos about this stuff too. Kanban's been a lot for me to get my head around, but I've been having a lot of fun.

So in that instance, you kind of work like a virtual project team, and you're like, "Hey, here's some work. Let's split it out into tickets." And then you create virtual cards, and then the Hermes agents picks them up and works on them.

And there's a feedback loop for each one where it reviews it. Is that kind of what the point is?

Porsche

Yeah. I like to be super lazy. So I gave it this afternoon, I wanted it to create a presentation on domestic cats in the United States.

Porsche

So I love cats. So it was able to take one ticket, and it split it into four different tickets without me doing anything.

Porsche

And so I'm actually looking at the final product now, but it was able to project manage on its own. And yeah, no, I think it's pretty cool.

Yeah. The interesting thing is it's honestly like context management. If you zoom out a little bit, what it's really doing because you could do it all in one session with Fable 5.1 or Opus 5.5 and be like, "Hey, do all this stuff," and then it goes off and figures it out.

But this is forcing it to think about things in small iterative tasks that I think you get a much better result that way. So it's kind of cool how it forces you into that context engineering aspect of AI.

Porsche

I don't force it at all.

Well, yeah. I mean, yeah. Yeah.

You're right.

Porsche

Yes. I don't force it at all. And you can fine-tune things.

Porsche

For instance, if the different bots are in I call it a huddle. When they're in one meeting room, you can tell it to give it five different chances to come up with a solution for a problem because if you make it unlimited, then they can actually burn all your tokens.

Porsche

Each bot can have its own model. It's pretty cool, and I really like it.

That's cool. Now I'm going to have to go play with that sometime. That sounds cool.

Well, thanks for sharing, Porsche. It was nice to meet you.

And yeah, I hope you stick around. And let's see.

Snowy, I think you're up next.

Snowy

Hello. Can you hear me okay?

Yes. We sure can.

Snowy

Yeah. Live from Scotland.

All right.

Snowy

Yeah. Oddly enough, I use Hermes quite a bit. And I was just going to chime in on what Porsche was saying, that it's really good if you have something that you need to split up.

Snowy

So I have a comms manager that manages my social posts, and I have a researcher, and I have a reviewer, and I have a coach that tells me when I've not moved enough or if I've eaten too much and things like that. They're all done through there.

Snowy

But the Kanban is really useful because you can set it off on different tasks, and one task, it'll then go and split it up, and it'll give it to the different bots. And you can have different bots with different models.

Snowy

So you can have a researcher bot that's specifically using a model that is particularly good for research and things. So yeah, I do love that.

Snowy

And the fact that I can just do I can just tell my Omarchy laptop just to say, "Look, make Super Shift H, my Hermes shortcut." So now when I press Super Shift H, Hermes opens up, and then I can stick it at my scratch.

Snowy

And then anytime I'm doing anything, I can just click back to Hermes, see how it's getting on, and then move on. I really love the combination of that with Omarchy because the two of them seem to go really well together.

Snowy

Yeah. I just wanted to chime in as soon as I've been.

Snowy

This is the second time I've been to one of these and I haven't spoken yet. And I didn't want to miss the opportunity to actually say hello to all you lovely people when I have the chance this time.

Well, hello. It's nice to meet you. And yeah, hopefully, you'll come back.

We're going to do this as often as we can, once a week. So that's great, man.

Let's see. Anybody else want to speak that hasn't spoken yet?

Give you just a minute. Oh, yes.

Linux Gamer.

Gav

Hello. Yes. My name's Gav.

Gav

I'm an IT infrastructure and operations director for a global pharmaceutical tech company in the UK. I live on a boat on the South Coast.

Gav

I have interacted with Fred and Wes a few times on X. Hope you're all good.

Yeah. We're all good, brother.

Gav

Yeah. All good, man. All good.

Gav

Thank you. For Porsche, though, so I do flit.

Gav

My main harness was open code, to be fair, until actually yesterday, which I did start using Hermes a little bit. And I flip in terms of providers between Alarma and OpenCode Go, part of that's due to privacy, etc.

Gav

But I guess the most relevant point most recently, I've set up my entire home lab, or I guess you could call it a boat lab, on two mini PC servers running NixOS and a Raspberry Pi running a PiHat for a NAS. So I used Omarchy specifically on my main laptop to set all that up for me.

Gav

I'm hosting my own around 24 apps now. Again, some of you will have seen some of that on my feed probably because I've shared some stuff.

Gav

Now, in terms of we talk about Kanban and ops and stuff there. So I run a daily ops standup with my agents that essentially run through my entire home lab stack, tell me what my situation is on my 3-2-1 backup strategy, any errors in the logs, networking, apps that are running, etc.

Gav

So that's kind of what I'm using Hermes and OpenCode for. And I guess more generally, I'm a gamer.

Gav

I kind of gave it away with the name, right? So I've been on Linux probably a couple of years now, and I was a serial distro hopper.

Gav

So CachyOS, NixOS on my laptop as well. Started with Bazzite, actually.

Gav

Didn't like the lockdown kind of method on that approach, so I moved on very quickly. That was probably my first unlike Ubuntu for most people.

Gav

So I also hated the original version of Omarchy. Not going to lie.

Gav

I'm a minimalist. However, I've moved to Omarchy Quattro from its launch, and I am now stuck on it.

Gav

I am no longer a distro hopper. And yeah, it's ticking all the boxes from my minimalist needs as well.

Gav

As soon as you remove those initial opinions.

Gav

So yeah, no, I'm loving it. Hopefully, that's useful.

Wonderful. Welcome. It's great to hear from you.

Stay safe out there on the water.

Gav

Cheers, man. Cheers, man. I'm particularly looking at your weather app just to keep an eye on those rain.

Gav

I need some wind information on there.

Yeah. Well, it's coming. There's a guy that did a PR for wind data, so I just got to find time to look at it.

But it's coming for sure, so. Yeah.

And there's a disclaimer, right? It's just for entertainment purposes only.

My lawyers tell me I have to say that. I'm just kidding.

Right. All right.

Well, let's see. I think somebody else.

Yeah. Kozha, you're up.

Kozha

Yeah. Guys, hi, everybody. I'm really sorry.

Kozha

I'm a bit busy since I'm completely reinstalling my Omarchy.

Kozha

I asked in the X chat, "What's up? Why I can't?"

Kozha

It sent me into a reboot loop. And then I got this little tiny text in the upper left corner, which said, "Yeah, no key for this password found."

Kozha

And yeah, all the help said, as well as David also kindly answered me, they asked me if I tried to encrypt my hard drive, but I never, ever did to try to do this. Since I was already afraid to make this 2014 MacBook even slower, right?

Kozha

And so yeah, right now, I'm on a full reinstall, and I need to get all my programs back here and so on and so forth.

Kozha

How about you guys?

Yeah. So something happened. It rebooted, and then it's like it wanted you to enter the password to decrypt the hard drive, but you're saying you never encrypted it.

Kozha

Yeah. The thing what I suspect is since we have, for some reason, over this weekend, an incredibly unstable internet Wi-Fi here. And I installed it all over Wi-Fi, which is kind of stupid, I know, but I lacked the LAN adapter here.

Kozha

Yeah. So anyways.

Kozha

And yeah, now I got to do it. I have to do it all from the beginning, right?

Well, I tell you what. Yeah.

If you want, we can talk through it more offline. I'm happy to help you too, so.

And I'm sure others here would be willing to help. But that sucks.

I know that feeling when you lose it and you have to reload.

Kozha

Yeah. It sucks. But at the same time, of course, I don't want to bother 100 people now and to give me tech support, right?

Kozha

This is not why I showed up here. I really had a great talk with Fred and David yesterday, and this was at my time here in Germany.

Kozha

We were talking from 1-ish in the morning until 5 in the morning, and it was incredible. I'm too old to go out and party.

Kozha

I don't do this anymore. But obviously, I'm old enough to stay awake until in the morning to talk about Omarchy.

That was a lot of work.

Kozha

And I'm also.

Kozha

Yeah. Sure. Sure.

Kozha

I'm totally in. I'm totally in.

Kozha

Great.

Wes, or Nix, do you mind if I reply to one thing? I'll make it very short. Shorter this time, I promise.

All right. Let me put my arm down here.

Kozha

You don't even need to, Fred. Really, I enjoyed every second. I enjoyed every second.

Kozha

As I told you yesterday, it was really a bliss, truly. And I don't say this out of kindness.

Kozha

I really, really mean it. I mean, I'm German.

Kozha

Germans don't say anything out of kindness, right?

Well, thank you. The bit of advice I had was check if and you may be past it already, but for others or future uses, you could check outside of that boot process if the disk is actually encrypted. And if it's not, the first place I would probably go in this type of scenario that I believe we're talking about is AC session logs.

So you get into the disk and go find whatever happened in the last five sessions. And you don't even have to analyze it yourself.

Just have an agent do it because that might tell you the whole story there. It felt like you didn't do anything.

You probably didn't. Could have been a Hermes install.

Could have been whatever.

Kozha

Yeah. I tried to update Omarchy this afternoon, and I suspect that it got kind of stuck right in the middle and just broken it somehow, right?

There should be a checksum process after downloads in all of this with Omarchy, but I haven't vetted that myself. But sure, bad downloads, bad internet absolutely can cause big problems too when you're doing updates.

Kozha

Yeah. Yeah. For sure.

Kozha

For sure. Right.

Kozha

But Omarchy itself is mind-blowing, really, because I wasn't around for Omarchy 3 or even Arch Linux in general. But when Omarchy Quattro came out, it gave me the chance as a noob to enter the Linux world.

Kozha

And yeah, and I will never go back. Right now, literally, every computer in this household is exclusively running Omarchy.

Kozha

My girlfriend asked me to do her laptops, to put it in dual boot mode. But after 24 hours later, now already, it was Omarchy exclusively because she was also such a fan.

Kozha

Yeah. It's really the I think this is the OS of the future, right?

Kozha

An OS which your agent, your personalized agent, will care about for you, unlike the other extreme, which in my mind is Windows. And Windows is like when you buy a Windows computer, it's like you buy a baby.

Kozha

You need to, "Oh, I need to enter a virus. I need this.

Kozha

I need that." And no, you can't go home now because I need to update.

Kozha

And yes, you will wait for my update. And yeah, this is incredibly bad.

Kozha

And also how slow it makes computers. I never expected these old computers to even function anymore at that pace.

Kozha

And Omarchy does it left-handedly.

Kozha

It's really I'm really mind-blown still.

I love that description. It's like training wheels, right? Windows for baby, right?

Just need to hold your hand as you go through it. But Omarchy is like, to be honest, the great thing about Omarchy is even if you don't have a lot of experience with Linux or whatever, it kind of ramps up with your level of ability with agents.

So it's wonderful.

Kozha

Now, Wes, I'm sorry. You broke up now. And I'm on 5G with my phone here right now, but even 5G seems like somehow to be corrupted today.

Kozha

A very bad internet day in Cologne, Germany, obviously. So it must be my Wes, I'm sorry.

Kozha

I couldn't hear what you said. Can you come again if it doesn't bother the others?

No. I was just saying I liked how you talked about Windows being like the baby operating system, right? Can't hear me?

Kozha

Dang it.

Can anybody else hear me?

Gav

Yeah, you're there, brother.

Okay. All right. Well, we'll hear from you next time, Kozha.

It's nice to hear from you. I'm glad you're joining us.

Kozha

Yeah. Now I can hear you again. Thank you, Wes.

All I was saying was I liked your analogy about Windows and being like holding your hand like training wheels for a baby. Yeah. And then I was just saying that Omarchy kind of does that too, but also when you're ready, you can go as deep as you want, and it's not going to stand in your way, so.

Kozha

Exactly. Exactly. You set it up one time, and even the setup, it doesn't feel like a burden.

Kozha

It feels like a pleasure because I know I just type in a short phrase. I even dictate it if I don't feel like typing.

Kozha

I dictate a short phrase, give it to my agent, and my agent does the rest. And yeah, it is.

Kozha

It truly is.

Well, it's great to hear from you. We have one more slot, and I think it's Tyler that asked to speak. But thanks, Kozha, and we'll talk to you next time.

And Tyler, you're up, and then we're going to close out.

Let's see. Tyler, you there?

If you are, you got to unmute, I think.

Okay. Well, maybe we'll get Tyler next time.

Fred, any oh, nope. There he is.

Okay. Tyler, you're up.

Yeah. I just wanted to introduce myself. I missed the first couple of ones, so I just want to say hi.

I'll be around. Name's Tyler.

Glad to be a part of this.

Tyler, you are completely out of control with all the software that you're shipping.

No, you don't try. There is no trying. You're doing it.

It's amazing.

Appreciate it.

Yeah, brother. What's one thing you've built you want to share, Tyler?

Right now, I am making I named it Ibara, and it's basically something where you can connect all of your PCs and hand them over to your agents and control them from your main Omarchy machine and connect to all the other Omarchy machines with one simple flow. If it's connected to Tailscale, you just install a plugin, press a button, and then you can hand it off to any agent or control it from any machine.

And can you desktop control it too, or use it like a?

Yeah. You can desktop control it, hand it off to your agent. It basically works just like GraphBot, but it's for all Omarchy machines, your own hardware.

Oh, I love it. Love it. Well, share it in the chat, and I'm sure we'll all go check it out.

I'm trying to get it released tomorrow, so.

Okay. Yeah. All good.

All good. Well, everybody, well, thank you, Tyler.

And then everybody, thank you for joining. I always enjoy these conversations.

Try to find some time before the week starts. Just sit down, have a quiet moment, plan your week out.

It'll go well. Don't be in a hurry.

Maybe it's the southern nature in me. Just go slow, and you're not going to miss out on anything, right?

And then try to have fun. Fred, anything you want to say?

Yeah, man. I want to thank a couple of our speakers today. Of course, Lee did an amazing job.

A lot of folks spoke up. I'd like to really thank Porsche.

She added a lot to the conversation today. That was pretty amazing.

Of course, Tech Luddite, always there.

Omarchy is an operating system, so what? The community is what makes this thing important.

So get out there this week. Reach out to somebody.

Help somebody. Be that person that changes their thoughts.

Be that person that lifts them up. It doesn't cost you anything to do it.

Help an old lady across the street, and when you get her over there, put Omarchy on her laptop. Make sure you follow everybody in here.

We've got a band together as a community. Bring a friend next week to this space.

Speak up. Wes and I just happen to be the host, but you're the star.

We really appreciate you being here. Back over to you, Wes.

Yeah. Yeah. Everything you said, agree with.

All right, y'all. We'll see you next week.

Same time, same channel, right, like Batman used to say. All right.

See you later.

Later, guys. Everybody out there, appreciate you. Go have a great week.

I just said appreciate you. Want to hear the lines.

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